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MCW Metrobus - London Transport M5
This webpage was set up to provide a central point of reference for the group that took on the responsibility for the restoration and preservation of London Transport's fifth and final prototype MCW Metrobus, known as "M5".
The page was not originally intended to be viewed by the world at large, but as so many have already found this site, the doors have been opened wide!
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20 September 2011 - Missed Showbus
We were very disappointed to have not been able to attend Showbus this year, butamjor overhaul isunder way instead.
19 November 2011 - Overhaul review
Roof now sealed, lower members replaced and some new body panels fitted.
Video here or photos here.
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M5 Statistics
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Chassis: MCW DR101/3 MB5014
Body: 1M1
LT fleet number: M5
Registration number: THX105S
- Track: Front 6ft 10 3/8inch
- Track: Rear 6ft 2 13/32inch
- Overall length: 31ft 4inch
- Wheelbase: 16ft 3inch
- Front axle: 562 Kirkstall beam
- Rear axle: Kirkstall D65 Semi Drop hub reduction 5.56:1
- Gearbox clutch: Voith D851 Torque converter with retarder
- Transmission: Engine to angle HSP1600 series-converter to rear axle 1700 series
- Engine: Gardner 6LXB 6 cylinder oil. 170 bhp at 1850 rpm
- Suspension: Full air front and rear. Front axle bellows support. Rear suspension "H" frame with 4 bellows
- Brakes: Clayton Dewandre Power. Hydraulic 3 stage retarder operated from brake pedal. Automatic slack adjusters.
- Swept circle: 62ft 5inch
- Steering: 5 turns lock to lock. ZF power assisted recirculating ball
- Weight: 9 tons
- Laden weight: 16 tons
- Overall height 14ft 4.25inch
- Width: 8ft 2.5inch
- Passengers: H46/29D+5 (when crew operated) [query: quoted as H46/28D when new ? ]
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History
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Photos
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Built and licensed prior to 1/8/78 (So retained -S reg)
Delivered to London Transport, Aldenham 1 September 1978
To Fulwell 27 October 1978 - used as trainer
To Cricklewood 5 July 1979 for 16/16A/N94
Possibly worked on 266
Converted for opo 4 December 1981
Delicensed and to overhaul at Aldenham 4/11/82
Passed WASP 6/7/83 and relicensed to Cricklewood (in advance of expiry 5/7/84)
Presumed to have re-entered service on 7/7/83,
in allover red
Used on 112 in 1984
Repainted May 1987
Repainted January 1990
Cricklewood to Edgware Feb 1991*
Trainer September 1992 onwards*
Edgware to Cricklewood 6 March 1993*
(*Cricklewood Garage became an outstation of Edgware Garage. M5 believed to have actually remained at Cricklewood "outstation")
Sold to Metroline 7 October 1994
Used as trainer December 1997
Blind box panelled over February 2000
Withdrawn and sold to Ensignbus June 2002
Sold to Redroute Buses, Kent August 2002
Used on many Kent routes
Used on London 185 September 2002
Laid up January 2003
Back in use September 2003
Used on Kent routes 423 and 489 December 2003
(presumed used on rail replacement and various Redroute services 2003-9)
Withdrawn and used as a store February 2009
"Officially" withdrawn March 2009
INTO PRESERVATION
Sold to Peter Figg on behalf of the Small-Brown-Figg
preservation group 1 August 2010
Was due to be moved to London Bus & Truck, Northfleet, Kent for assessment 1 August 2010, but due to an apparent communications error at LB&T access was refused.
Believed actually moved to London Bus & Truck for assessment c.6 August 2010
Assessed by LB&T 11 August 2010 and report received 15 September 2010.
LB&T asked to restore to MoT condition 23 September 2010 subject to estimated costs.
LB&T confirmed that work has begun 28 October 2010.
Blinds delivered 18 November 2010.
28 January 2011: The domain name "www.thx105s.tk" has been registered to replace the earlier long url within another site. This domain name should remain active so long as it receives a small number of hits each month.
4 February 2011: Restoration work done so far by London Bus & Truck reviewed and assessed.
Some more photos added to http://earthfish.fotopic.net/c1939164.html.
18 May 2011 : Replicar Mark 1 grille ordered
20 May 2011 : Entry form for North Weald dispatched.
3 July 2011 : Didn't make North Weald :-( .
18 September 2011 : Failed to make Showbus :-( - no MoT.
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25 July 2010 Initial inspection
1 August 2010 Final inspection and purchase
1 August 2010 M609 - inspected for spares (rejected)
4 February 2011 At London Bus & Truck, Northfleet
Other photos already on the net:
(Those on Fotopic may no longer be available)
Parked up (at Redroute?)
Parked with 322 Lakeside blind display
Private Hire display - Wayne Stanton
Central Line
Rear
Showbus (Official)
In Tonbridge
Steve Thomas
Rail replacement offside
Rail replacement nearside
LTS Rail
Victoria Line
185 Dulwich (Showbus 2002?)
With a coach
Offside
With a Lynx
Blind!
Dark
Leytonstone
On 185
Central Line
Metroline trainer
245 at Golders Green
Central Line with RedRoute
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Projects (suggested - not yet confirmed)
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Links
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Goals (suggested - not yet fully discussed)
Mechanics restored by LB&T to MoT standard (underway)
Repanelling - LB&T subject to acceptable quote
Repaint to 1978 condition (subject to tender)
Storage - Secure undercover sites in Essex
Spares run to Yorks -tba
Public debut - now revised to be LBPT 2012
Internal restoration "at leisure":
Cab repaint to black
Doors to brown
Steering wheel centre (obtained)
Retrim of seats (gradual - but lower deck a priority)
Replace "Titan" seat
Replace etched windows (quote requested)
MCW dummy gauge for cab (obtained)
Major projects:
Original style grille (replica received)
Rectangular foglights
Reg plates restored to original style
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Possible insurers
Footman James
Rigton - quote received
Towergate
Possible parts suppliers
PSV Transport Systems
Squirrel Preservation
Geoff Ripley
West Midlands Vehicle Maintenance
The Bus Business
Stafford Bus Centre
McKenna Brothers
Trevor Wigley
Gardner
Rallies
Events diary
Yahoo Groups
MCW Metrobus
MCW-Metrobus
UK-Bus-Preservation
UKBusPreservation
Other links
MCW Metrobus on Wiki
London Bus & Truck
Marden's
Self Preservation Society
Technical Resource Guide
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Paper M5
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Email addresses
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Peter Figg - pfm5@dotorgdotuk.org.uk
Paul Small - psm5@dotorgdotuk.org.uk
Jamie Brown - jbm5@dotorgdotuk.org.uk
Joel Bleau - jgm5@dotorgdotuk.org.uk
(Spam is NOT WELCOME at these addresses)
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The fate of the prototype Metrobuses |
SDA831S - Claimed to be the first M built*. Scrapped
SDA832S - Claimed to be the earliest M preserved*
TOJ592S Demonstrator - preserved at ? Museum, ?
THX101S M1 - Ensignbus Museum / PSV 2010
THX102S M2 - Sullivan Buses / PSV 2010
THX103S M3 - sold for scrap by Imperial 2009
THX104S M4 - sold for scrap by Redroute Buses 2009
THX105S M5 - Small-Brown-Figg / preserved 2010
* These claims MAY be based on WMTE's first Ms (?)
TOJ592S on YouTube
M1 nearside
M1 offside
M1 offside rear
M2 on 32
M1069 (NOT M1062). Driver Figg at the wheel?
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News in pictures
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With London Transport outside Palmers Green Garage
Adrian Baum
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The first photo of M5 in private preservation
Looks no different to the last photo in redroute ownership.
1 August 2010 |
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First replacement parts
The item on the left is actually the rarity.
£37 from ebay August 2010 |
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At London Bus & Truck, Northfleet
30 August 2010
Stuart Boxall |
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New blinds
"N94" not quite correct.
18 November 2010
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Review of restoration progress
(Trying to spot the difference 6 months later)
4 February 2011
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Entered for North Weald (fail)
In the programme but not fit for MoT test on the day.
July 2011
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Entered for Showbus 2011 (Another fail - still no MoT)
This is where we should have been. |
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Some new panels.
November 2011 |
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Service manual obtained.
December 2011 |
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What we are aiming for (but with non-DipTac rails)
The future, 2012? |
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Rev 20111230 |
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